Discussion in 'EMIGRARE' started by negrutxa, Oct 25, 2007.
http://www.muncainstrainatate.anofm.ro/ ... nului-2008
It's hard to estimate the number of Romanians living abroad because many of them don't register at the relevant authorities. I found some statistics on the website of the National Institute of Statistics but they only count the Romanians that settled their residence abroad:
http://www.insse.ro/cms/files%5Cpublica ... 202009.pdf on page 16
http://www.insse.ro/cms/rw/resource/rom ... nload=true on page 14
http://www.insse.ro/cms/files%5Cstatist ... ng%5C7.htm
And this is the statistic for 1990-2006:
http://www.insse.ro/cms/files/pdf/ro/cap2.pdf chapter 2.29 and 2.30
Okay, so the PCC have settled the matter in our favour and the Daily Express will be required to print a correction to the story.
Initially the Daily Express disputed our challenge, but with the information provided by people here we were able to show that they had made a number of errors in the report.
Eventually they offered to print a correction, but I did not accept the wording of the correction they wanted to make. By continuing to challenge them they have now agreed to make a more substantial correction.
They will shortly publish this, and the complaint will also be highlighted by the Press Complaints Commission on their website and in their annual report.
CONGRATULATIONS ON THE FIRST SUCCESS!
Thank you for fighting against the lies and inaccuracies that occur in the press concerning the Romanian people and country.
I am very grateful to you and hope more users will join the REACT ORGANISATION, so that we can have a better say when unfairly attacked in the press.
Here's the link to follow for registration:
Good Luck! TOGETHER we will succeed!
FELICITARI PT. PRIMUL SUCCES!
Multumim pt. lupta dusa impotriva minciunilor si inadvertentelor aparute in presa cu privire la poporul roman si Romania.
Eu sunt foarte recunoscatoare tie si sper ca mai multi utilizatori se vor alatura ORGANIZATIEI REACT, astfel incat cuvantul nostru sa aiba greutate cand suntem atacati in mod necinstit in presa.
Iata link-ul care trebuie urmat pt. inscriere:
Succes! IMPREUNA vom reusi!
I would like us to react against this documentary.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... d_Thieves/
A good starting point might be the comments after "The Independent"review article:
http://www.romani-online.co.uk/stiri/13 ... underworld
That page says FORBIDDEN and was technically removed. Why? -nu-zic-
Re: REACT !
It's back now. Thanks.
Here is the comment that really should be taken into account:
Last night’s Gypsy Child Thieves – left a bitter taste and, like Madonna, I also feel sadness, disappointment and I feel the need to express a point of view.
One cannot help wondering: why is the Western, criticising finger pointed solely at Romania when the facts show that Gypsies across Europe have issues finding and staying into work http://www.unesco.org/courier/2000_06/uk/ethique.htm? Can the vicious circle not be spotted? They cannot get jobs as they have no qualifications and that is because appx 80% take their children out of school and train them into thieving and begging. Why? Maybe because it is a quick source of money? Breliante from Craiova, Romania was glorifying last night “thieving within limits” as a family profession. His father and grandfather had been “in charge” of their town for generations. Another very important fact everybody seems to forget is that Romania had been systematically drained during the communist era. The entire population suffered for 45 long years – the lack of food, resources, electricity and heating, hot running water, etc – but the nation did not go accusing Europe for allowing this on its civilized doorstep. We did not scream “racism” or “discrimination” in other nations’ face. In the early years, after the fall of the communism in Romania, large numbers of Gypsies came to Britain and claimed asylum. Later, even more flooded European cities claiming they were facing discrimination back at home but in truth, in Romania there was hardly anything worth stealing and no money they could sponge off the social system in order to build those revolting villas. If Romania is such an atrocious place for the Rroma, how come that the largest Rroma minority lives there? If the problem is in Romania, why the events in Spain, Italy, Ireland, Slovakia, Hungary? Is it always everybody else but them? Who dares pop in their midst and teach them family values when some of them are abusing their own children? There are so many cases of unprovoked attacks on Romanians carried out by Gypsies, simply to steal valuables and possessions. But we never get to read about this in the Western media. Prisons are full of Rroma offenders whom the authorities and the media regard as “Romanians” and we have to live with this stigma and at the same time take the slap of accusations that we are mistreating our Gypsies. Just what are we supposed to do? Shut our eyes and accept their antisocial behaviour as an expression of their culture to the detriment of our societies? On the programme, the only Gypsy family who accepted help from the Italian charity, having somewhere to live rent-free, being fed and looked after, carried on sending their children begging after a few days only. Was it still “as a last resort” or “because they have no other means of support”?
In fairness, there are also Rroma people who chose to integrate in our society. They tried to make do with whatever little they had, just like everybody else. Today they do have jobs and lead a normal, civilized life. I know this for a fact because, unlike Madonna, I grew up with them, I played with them and are friends with some of them. They do not feel discriminated against and more, they condemn the antisocial behaviour of those who put into disrepute both, Romania and the Gypsies. It is not prejudice but shame that makes them forget their roots.
Yes, we all know and feel that there is a huge problem but by branding them “Romanians” that Romania should deal with or wishing that Romania was never accepted in the EU specifically because of what this minority is doing in Europe, will never solve the issue. There has been nothing but criticism towards us ever since the accession to the EU and I wonder who is, in fact, being discriminated here? When something is done towards their integration, it clashes with the Rroma culture. They resist any approach and worse, they shout “discrimination!” and the world believes it. Let's say we, the Romanians, don't know how to handle their integration but what about Spain, Italy, Great Britain, France and the rest of Eastern Europe? Where are we all going wrong and what are the Rroma organisations doing about it? -bravo-
dst a scris:
Please, can you give links where these amendments were published both by Daily Express and PCC? Thank you.
Just wondering if we have any updates on this topic from DST.