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Asistenti medicali in UK - 2

Discussion in 'EXPERIENTA LA SERVICIU' started by Mutu, Jul 24, 2011.

  1. karina4472

    karina4472 New Member

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    Pentru romina85 ...In ceea ce-i priveste pe cei de la Bussines Activ Consult din Cluj ,pe mine din ianuarie ma tot amagesc si dau tot felul de simulacre de interviu cu tot felul de persoane dubioase pe skype.Sunt niste mincinoase ,plus ca uita ,,dreapta'' ce face ,,stanga''...Am avut noroc ca nu mi-am lasat actele originale pe mana lor si nici nu am semnat contractul ala impopotonat prin care sa-i deleg pe ei sa-mi trimita actele pentru obtinerea PIN-ului
     
  2. sercan999

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    A primit cineva de curand PIN number-ul de la NMC? Va multumesc! -plasture-
     
  3. makytakla

    makytakla New Member

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    Buna am aplicat pt PIN in aprilie si acum 2 zile l-am primit, daca imi poate recomanda careva o firma cu care pot pleca fara comisioane ...mentionez ca pt PIN am aplicat singur fara ajutorul firmelor si desigur documentandu-ma de aici...
    A auzit careva de VPL Healthcare?
    Email: makytakla@yahoo.com
    Multumesc.
     
  4. ssiimmoonnaa

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    BUNA... a primit cineva purple card recent? Dupa cat timp de la aplicatie pe posta?........... se mai elibereaza awc? multumesc..
     
  5. Speedy.

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    Cautand ceva informatii pe net, mm dat peste "ghidul" de mai jos. -nu-ma-uit- Unele sunt cam exagerate si trase de par, dar cred ca merge pus aici:

    "Nurses bleeping Junior Doctor etiquette

    1. Bleeping is not a spinal reflex. Please take a few seconds to breathe, think and organise your thoughts, and stop flapping about. Half the time you may realise you didn't even need to pick up the phone.

    2. Mention what ward you are on. I don't have the whole hospital directory of numbers memorised. This is called the 'bingo-bleep'.

    3. If you bleep someone, please wait by the phone. How can there be no-one picking up the phone at your end when I ring back?! This is called the 'bleep-and-run' and is exceptionally irritating.

    4. Have the notes, obs chart and drug chart in front of you. Chances are I need to know what the obs were without waiting for you to run over to the bed and look, then run back over to the trolley to get the notes when I ask the next question. This is called the 'relay-bleep' and is probably not fun for you.

    5. Please mention the name, age, and working diagnosis of the patient. The following is not acceptable: "Hello doctor, please see patient in 4, 6, she has chest pain". That is 'bleep-spam'

    6. All patients with chest pain need an ECG. Don't bleep me until one is being done or there in front of you.

    7. If I'm in theatre (surgery), leave a clear message. The following is not acceptable: "Can you come to the ward afterwards, there are a few things to do". This also counts as 'bleep-spam'

    8. Once in a while I will not respond to my bleep. This is because I am jumping on top of someone's chest trying to save their life. I am NOT 'on break'. Doctors don't have these.

    9. Please check with the other nurses that you aren't asking the same question as them. I really hate being bleeped from the same ward from two phones and two nurses for same patient. This is called the 'déjà-bleep' and is distinctly un-fun

    10. You spend twenty times as much time with each patient than we do. We appreciate your opinion and pertinent information. The following is not acceptable: "Well you're the doctor, you should know". Well actually I'm on call and have never met this patient who has spent 5 weeks with you.

    11. Please be cheery on the phone and perhaps even flirt a little. I've just spent 12 hours running around the hospital doing mundane tasks, talking to angry relatives, putting my finger up bums, taking blood and ordering xrays. You will get your way far easier by making me smile.

    12. When I answer the bleep please don't say 'Oops, sorry I had a question but not any more". This is called the 'fart-bleep' and gets on my nerves (See also point 1).

    13. Please don't ask me to see virtually every patient on your ward. That's called a ward round.

    14. If you do cannulae on the ward regularly you will be my favourite nurse and I will do anything you say.

    15. If I answer my bleep and the line is engaged because you are bleeping me from that phone again, I may well explode. This is called the 'torpedo-bleep' because of its incessant battle with my morale. Three hits and the boat may sink.

    16. If a patient has died, he/she no longer cares how long it takes me to get to the ward. That's a medical fact. Chances are I can do a few other jobs on my way there. If you bleep me again for this patient it better be because they have miraculously come back to life. This is called the 'Lazarus-bleep'

    17. The 'MEWS / EWS / EWSS / PARS' score is a trigger for you to call me and is useless after that. I don't give a crap what the score is. Tell me WHY the patient has scored it (e.g. respiratory rate? BP? heart rate?).

    18. Please don't start a sentence "Just to let you know..." or "Just so you know..." I hear this 50 times per shift. This is called the 'zombie-bleep' and you have just inadvertently disengaged my brain.

    19. Please don't make the person who picks up the phone have find to you from the other end of the ward. This is called the 'bleep-and-hide' (See also point 3).

    20. Don't have someone else (e.g. a student) bleep for you. It's cruel to them, and they are not your secretary. This is called the 'kamikaze-bleep' (see also points 4, 5 and 19)

    21. Dosing a patient's warfarin (whom you have never met and don't know their history) at 4am is horrible, tedious, legally dubious and just plain bad for the patient. Please slap the day team round their faces when they arrive the next morning and don't let it happen again.

    22. Sit down! You may be surprised with how much this helps points 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 9, 11, and 19

    23a. If you happen to have a spare moment, eavesdrop when a doctor bleeps another doctor. The majority of the time you will see how it should be done.

    23b. Sometimes point 23a doesn't work because the doctor is a week old and still learning the 'etiquette'. He/she will learn very quickly as their senior on the other end shouts them down!

    24. When a patient is in an ACUTE confusional state, please do not repeatedly ask me for, or demand sedation. This is not the year 1912. I might give sedation AFTER ruling out an infection, over-medication, drug withdrawal, metabolic cause, trauma, neurological, hypoxic, endocrine, and vascular causes, and AFTER using every other method of calming down the patient.

    25. Read the latest entry/entries in the medical notes. Your question may be answered already (see also points 1, 4, 12, 13)"
     
  7. dromaderu

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    Very funny, and, considering some of my colleagues I've worked alongside today pretty accurate...however,

    fara sa am timp/chef de cautat pe net, as avea si eu v'o doua, din propria-mi experienta.

    -cand aveti un bleep, incercati dreaq sa sunati back in 5/10 minute, si, nu-mi explicati apoi ca tocmai ce ati salvat ceva mamaie de la deces, la mine nu mai tine, mai prinde la fatuci de 22 de ani! -asa-asa-
    -cand dozati warfarinu'.. (numa un inconstient ar bleepui la 4 dimineata pt asta) incercati sa nu mai googaliti OK? -asa-asa-
    sau sa intrebati pe d'alde noi...nursele!
    -as sugera, pe la a 4/5a incercare ratata de a prinde o vena , sa lasati un specialist (nursa ) sa va faca treaba! -bravo-
    - nu mai confundati mirosul de Cdiff cu ala de kaka de copil mic, sunt diferite!
     
  8. Radooo

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    Eu pana acum am avut de-a face in general numai cu nurse super ok, si am tot respectul pt ele/ei. De cate ori m-au scos din diferite "belele" numai eu stiu.
     
  9. petrus.imb

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    buna ziua ,am si eu o intrebare .se poate aplica la NMC atat din tara adica Romania cat si din anglia ? eu am crezut ca se poate si din anglia si dovedesti cu adeverinta de la medicul de familie si adeverinta de la ordinul asistentilor ,fara sa mai completezi campurile special pt asa ceva . si inca o rugaminte pt cineva care a depus recent .vroiam sa stiu exact ce acte trebuie ,si traduse ,legalizate ,etc .ca fiecare vine cu varianta lui de nu mai intelegi nimic .va multumesc
     
  10. Mutu

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    Se poate aplica din ambele tari, doar ca anumite acte trebuie completate in tara unde ai muncit ca si asistent ori ti-ai facut studiile.
    Toate actele necesare le gasesti pe prima pagina a acestui topic si trebuie trimise astfel:
    -copie legalizata a actului oficial(diploma, adeverinta etc), la care se ataseaza cu o agrafa traducerea legalizata a actului respectiv.


     
  11. Anonymous

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    Sa traiesti Mutule? Bine-ai revenit!!!
     
  12. Mutu

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    Bine v-am regasit!
    Nu am fost plecat, doar am refuzat a-mi face aparitia. Mi se facuse lehamite de fite si rufe nespalate. Noroc ca a fost unu' de la Cotroceni si a facut putina ordine prin ograda.
     
  13. Anonymous

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    Da, acum avem toti chilotii curati:)
     
  14. veronikai

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    A mai primit cineva pin numberul?Ca eu il astept din martie,si simt ca o iau razna!Am sunat la NMC si imi spun acelasi lucru de fiecare data...dosarul d-voastra este la decizii! -nervos-
     
  15. Livia05

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    Buna,
    vreu sa va multumesc pentru informatiile postate pe site, in special cele legate de obtinerea PIN-ului.
    Am gasit informatiile-cheie pe prima pagina a acestui subiect - mii de multumiri, Mutu! Si Dromaderului pentru multimea de sfaturi pertinente si pentru ca si-a facut timp sa ne impartaseasca din experienta lui la munca.

    -bravo-

    Experienta mea:
    Mi-am facut temele citind cam tot ce am putut de pe forum si in 7 aprilie 2013 am trimis dosarul catre NMC. Dosarul continea mare parte din documentele metionate de Mutu, mai putin certificatul de conformitate de la Ministerul Sanatatii, pe care mi s-a spus ca ar trebui sa-l astept vreo 6 luni. Formularul de la NMC a fost completat exclusiv de mine si de Ordinul de asistentilor din Cluj (de unde am obtinut tot sprijinul si putin in plus - ei m-au sfatuit sa trimit dosarul si fara acel certificat). Documentele le-am tradus la traducator autorizat si le-am legalizat (just in case...). Am pus in plus o recomandare de la locul de munca (lucrez ca si asistent medical la un cabinet privat din august 2012), copie a certificatului IELTS (sustinut in octombrie 2012) si am mentionat in formular doua cursuri cu certificare international la care am participat.
    Pe la mijlocul lunii iunie am sunat la Londra, mi s-a spus ca au primit dosarul (dupa exact 7 zile, Posta Romana paravion, vreo 5 lei) si ca voi avea in curand vesti de la ei.
    Ceea ce s-a intamplat in 4 iulie, cand am primit confirmarea depunerii dosarului si acceptarii mele - RN1. Mai trebuia sa completez un formular - declarative privind starea de sanatate si sa platesc taxa initiala de inregistrare de 100 lire. Ceea ce am facut si va doresc si voua, celor care aplicati.
    Sa auzim de bine,
    Livia
     
  16. Livia05

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    marinelasonei a postat pe prima pagina a acestui subiect lista cu documentele necesare pentru obtinerea PIN-ului.
    Multumesc, pentru mine a fost principalul instrument de lucru pentru completarea dosarului.
     
  17. Mutu

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    Placerea a fost de partea noastra!
    Acum trebuie sa te pui cu burta pe engleza!
     
  18. Livia05

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    Acum ca ai adus vorba, ai vreo sugestie legata de terminologia de specialitate? Mi-am dat IELTS anul trecut si continui sa ma pregatesc cu un profesor foarte bun. Am gasit ceva informatii pe net dar nesistematizate (de exemplu am cautat descrierea seringii pentru a afla denumirea in engleza partilor componente). Dar la trusa de perfuzii m-am blocat...as vrea sa mai stiu care sunt medicamentele utilizate in mod curent intr-un spital/NH in Anglia. Stie cineva cum as putea afla? Multumesc mult.
     
  19. Karmenis

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    Eu am gasit folositor site-ul de mai jos, cu informatii despre boli, medicamente, investigatii medicale, etc.
    Se merita accesat, mai ales ca textul se poate asculta audio concomitent cu citirea lui, ajutandu-ne
    sa ne imbunatatim vocabularul.

    http://www.patient.co.uk/


    Rog si alti colegi sa afiseze astfel de site-uri, cu posibilitate de accesare audio/text.
    Multumiri si urari de bine !
     
  20. dromaderu

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    Can't answer,I can log just from my mobile,if,there are many things to consider
     

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